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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby drew » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:53 am

The AMRS records page is here.

http://rocketry.org.au/education/records/

Fairly soon it will be updated with J and L single motor records.

That being said you have to be an AMRS member to apply for and/or hold an AMRS record. Beyond the AMRS list I'm unaware of any other altitude record list that is Aussie specific.

Tripoli's Altitude records are in a bit of a shambles as they haven't been migrated to the new Tripoli web site. That said the legacy site is still online and you can look at the records list there. It's incomplete though.

http://www1.tripoli.org/Membership/CompetitionsandRecords/tabid/285/Default.aspx
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby CATO » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:10 pm

drew wrote:The AMRS records page is here

Thanks AMRS Records Committee :-)
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby drew » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:31 pm

Lol, I guess I should update my signature. 8)
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Rockoon » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:47 pm

Hi guys,
Sorry I don't have the latest pages up yet.
Copy this link below to find those unofficial rocketry records.
Most of the links may not work but you'll be able to view the records listed
I'll be updating them soon.
Cheers!

http://www.mts.net/~rns/rocketry/Unofficial%20Rocketry%20Records%20Index.htm

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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Lister » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:06 pm

the h410vmax record is only 1661ft.. i broke that with my 29mm MD but no onboard altimeter :) looks like alot of the records should be pretty easy to beat.. why dont more people go for them?

so the AMRS records have to be performed at an AMRS site? are the tripolli records serperate from amrs records?

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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Viking » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:08 pm

Oops, quoted an old post... ignore me.
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Lister » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:23 pm

was only yesterday mate. what motor class are you looking at viking? maybe we could have a bit of a competition ;)

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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Viking » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:33 pm

Yeah mate, moment of panic there.
I opened the thread to what I thought was my first unread post and yours was the last, then after sending my reply I saw there were a pile of newer ones.
No biggie.

I have plans for 24mm, there are many 'engineering' challenges in this size. I like a challenge ;)
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Lister » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:52 pm

yeah i was just that quick i caught your unedited post ;)

ooh nice, going for the single stage G record? i have a 24mm on the drawing board, you arent wrong about challenges... even fitting an altimeter in is a bloody headache... once i find my lost 24mm prototype and get the nose back i will have it under way :) using CTI?

what are you doing for deployment... motor eject? if it goes like it sims then i will have a hard time finding a delay long enough.

also have my first 29mm MD done and tested so i know my construction can handle it.. and thats without tip to tip on the fins.

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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby drew » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:41 pm

Rockoon wrote:Hi guys,
Sorry I don't have the latest pages up yet.
Copy this link below to find those unofficial rocketry records.
Most of the links may not work but you'll be able to view the records listed
I'll be updating them soon.
Cheers!

http://www.mts.net/~rns/rocketry/Unofficial%20Rocketry%20Records%20Index.htm

Rockoon


MMMMAAAATTTTEEEE!!!!!! I've been looking for your page for some time as to my knowledge it's the most comprehensive available. Thanks for posting Rockoon!
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby drew » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:45 pm

Lister wrote:so the AMRS records have to be performed at an AMRS site? are the tripolli records serperate from amrs records?


The AMRS records don't have to be performed at an AMRS web site but they must be attempted by an AMRS member and verified by an AMRS CO or ACO to be suitable for consideration.

Tripoli and the AMRS are two completely separate entities. A member of Tripoli who's also a member of the AMRS can apply for records from both organisations BUT successfully attaining a Tripoli record has no bearing on an AMRS record request, much like AMRS records aren't automatically "grandfathered" into Tripoli's records.
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby drew » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:40 pm

drew wrote:The AMRS records don't have to be performed at an AMRS web site


Obviously I meant launch site. :?

If you're really keen and are an AMRS member I recommend you log into the AMRS web site (not launch site!) and look at the Documentation page contained in the Members section. In there you'll find the AMRS Altitude Records and "Speed Demon" Records documentation. A $10 application fee is also required for your record request to be considered.
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby drew » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:51 pm

Lister wrote:the h410vmax record is only 1661ft.. i broke that with my 29mm MD but no onboard altimeter :) looks like alot of the records should be pretty easy to beat.. why dont more people go for them?


Rockoon's site isn't really a impluse class records site like the AMRS records are. It's more like a worldwide catch all for high altitude flights organised by impulse class. If you were looking to break the H impulse class record on his web site you'd have to take out Adrian Adamson's record (Adrian is the Raven manufacturer) that he set with a CTI H160. His peak altitude was 14,818ft. I don't believe records like that are easily achievable here in Australia though. Adrian set this record and others in Colorado. The launch sites that he utilised for these flights were 5,400ft and 8,800ft ASL.
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Max V - 2,488 ft/s, ~Mach 2.2 - M2250 - THUNDA 2015

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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Viking » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:09 pm

Lister wrote:going for the single stage G record?

Yeah, and the F maybe.
More a personal challenge than anything else.
I'm not a competitive person. I've never won anything in my life, no trophies, not even a crappy medal.
i have a 24mm on the drawing board, you arent wrong about challenges... even fitting an altimeter in is a bloody headache...

I'm hoping to squeeze GPS, Baro, Accel and radio into the cone, still just pencil on a napkin at this stage, but I'm pretty confident it is doable.
Finding the time however....
using CTI?
Is there an option?

what are you doing for deployment... motor eject? if it goes like it sims then i will have a hard time finding a delay long enough.

Def not motor eject!, my Sims are looking at 20 to 22seconds of coast.
I don't trust them. I've been as accurate and, frankly, anal about weights as I can, launch site details etc.... I still don't trust the sims.
I reckon I'll fall a good 20 or 30% short of what OR is telling me.
Only one way to find out ;)
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Re: Altitude Records Online

Postby Viking » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:10 pm

Viking wrote:
Lister wrote:going for the single stage G record?

Yeah, and the F maybe.
More a personal challenge than anything else.
I'm not a competitive person. I've never won anything in my life, no trophies, not even a crappy medal.
i have a 24mm on the drawing board, you arent wrong about challenges... even fitting an altimeter in is a bloody headache...

I'm hoping to squeeze GPS, Baro, Accel and radio into the cone, still just pencil on a napkin at this stage, but I'm pretty confident it is doable.
Finding the time to go down this path however....
using CTI?
Is there an option?

what are you doing for deployment... motor eject? if it goes like it sims then i will have a hard time finding a delay long enough.

Def not motor eject!, my Sims are looking at 20 to 22seconds of coast.
I don't trust them. I've been as accurate and, frankly, anal about weights as I can, launch site details etc.... I still don't trust the sims.
I reckon I'll be at least 20 or 30% short of what OR is telling me, probably even more.
Only one way to find out ;)
Simon
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