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Re: clust-o-matic

Postby matthew » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:26 pm

CATO wrote:Hi Matt,

matthew wrote:Does the LED actually do anything useful?.

If you don't like it, don't include it, but when I connect the e-matches to the terminals I would like a visual indication that the circuit is not in a triggered state...

Great, that's useful info. I was thinking that no-one would have their avionics powered up when connecting igniters, but I guess there's always the possibility of misconfigured wiring. Easy enough to have them (one per input in my case).

matthew wrote:I'm also looking at a layout that should greatly increase the current available to each igniter simultaneously. Probably this will entail a solder on fly lead for connecting the battery rather than screw terminals. Is that a deal breaker for most people? It isn't a problem for me, but I know how to solder...

How much current do you need? Each FET is capable of 14~15A depending on the version, the trace is calculated for 30A (80 deg)...


I think with the bus style of the Clust-o-matic, it shares that 30A amongst all 4 FETs. In particular, that first part of the trace as it leaves the battery terminals could be a bottleneck in a 4x 15A continuous scenario. I want to make the 15A available to each FET at a lower temp. Temp means resistance which means a voltage drop across the trace, reducing the voltage across the e-match/igniter (also wasted energy from an already small battery). I'm thinking of the dead-short scenario: if one or more FETs is switching 15A, then it reduces the current available to the others.

My limited searching for 5.08mm pitch screw mounting terminals has only been able to turn up parts that are rated to a max of 16A. As a battery connection, that creates a limit. By going with a solder on tail, I'm hoping to be able to transfer that amount of current (4x 15A) to the board reliably.

That all said, I'm not aware of any issues anyone has had with the Clust-o-matic and there's no doubt in my mind that what I'm doing is likely overkill. I'm just taking the opportunity to see if an already good design can be taken another step or two with a fresh look. I'm also thinking about possible further applications, like at the pad. No relay contacts to burn out or getting welded together. :)
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Re: clust-o-matic

Postby CATO » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:08 pm

Good luck with you build Matt......
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Impulse:
2019: 14,725 Ns (44% N)
Ns 18: 14,767; Ns 17: 5,973; 16: 34,558; 15: 35,955; 14: 6,016; 13: 10,208
PB - Gorilla N2717WC, H: 10,260', S: M1.14

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Re: clust-o-matic

Postby CATO » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:04 pm

And this is what happens when you mix OCD and Jager...

You can never have too many “Clust-O-Matic”s. :shock: Well at least that’s what I’ve been told...

Happy New Year all.....

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"In thrust we trust"

AMRS 21 L3 RSO
TRA 07459 L3

Impulse:
2019: 14,725 Ns (44% N)
Ns 18: 14,767; Ns 17: 5,973; 16: 34,558; 15: 35,955; 14: 6,016; 13: 10,208
PB - Gorilla N2717WC, H: 10,260', S: M1.14

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Re: clust-o-matic

Postby SpaceManMat » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Ok so that’s about 30 yeah? Are you going to be selling them?
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Re: clust-o-matic

Postby CATO » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:15 am

SpaceManMat wrote:Ok so that’s about 30 yeah? Are you going to be selling them?


Hi Matt....

Happy New Year...

Yeah that’s 30.....

Selling, absolutely not (not my design nor IP), they were just a test to expand my knowledge of SMD and moden circuit board manufacturing (I got 50 boards made and the required parts). I don’t accept any responsibility nor liability for their functionality, more than happy to send you one “Free Of Charge” (use at own risk). Just PM me.

Also please note that I only selected this board as they were no longer being manufactured or sold by the original designer of the product “Whooshtronics”, and they would not lose revenue as a result of this project.
"In thrust we trust"

AMRS 21 L3 RSO
TRA 07459 L3

Impulse:
2019: 14,725 Ns (44% N)
Ns 18: 14,767; Ns 17: 5,973; 16: 34,558; 15: 35,955; 14: 6,016; 13: 10,208
PB - Gorilla N2717WC, H: 10,260', S: M1.14


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